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Robyn · Joined: 13 Aug 2005 Posts: 72 Location: Perth

Hi Brad & Kayleen,
Yes i think that the heading suggested is excellent. What we are finding is that even when talking to art teachers etc, that most have no idea what is in the paints, and what effects various mediums can have on peoples health.
Even yesterday, an artist in Tasmania was talking about all the dust particles from pastels and how many students and artists when using pastels where not using face masks. As i stated before, daily we are talking directly to artists and its amazing how many people have health issues with their mediums, including the type you use Brad.
Solvents is another huge issue.
Having a non toxic , odourless medium to market sure makes life a little easier. The best reward of all is when strangers send a letter, or phone you and tell how they have got themselves back into enjoying painting again.
Maybe an awareness programme could help, and yes Kayleen keep the promotional dollars at arms length.
Health and safety is one issue that is being totally overlooked, right thru the whole educational system.
Regards
Robyn

Brad Buchel

TessPaints · Joined: 06 May 2006 Posts: 6 Location: New South Wales

what about a critique page ? artists can bravely post a mini pic of something they are working on, or stumped with ...... inviting others to offer constructive critique ? the key word here being constructive ...
is that viable ? possible ? or too scary ? Rolling Eyes

Kayleen Stewart · Joined: 18 Feb 2006 Posts: 1793 Location: Yarra Valley

We do that here Tess but not on any particular crit section.
Say if it is an oil - post on oil thread and ask for feed back, members are very helpful. Wink

TessPaints · Joined: 06 May 2006 Posts: 6 Location: New South Wales

I'm sorry I did'nt realize you did critique here, I'm still new to both this site and forums in general so still feeling my way around...I'll try to find the critiques so I can see for myself. thanks m8

Kayleen Stewart · Joined: 18 Feb 2006 Posts: 1793 Location: Yarra Valley

Thats fine. Dont feel sorry.
Was just letting you know if you want help, just post it under the medium and members will offer advice if you ask for it.
Happy painting Very Happy

keren · Joined: 07 Aug 2006 Posts: 1

Hi I'm a newbie to the forum and I think it's really quite impressive how many different topics of disscussion are available on this forum!
I'm currently doing my grad dip at Curtin uni majoring in Art teaching and I'm looking for teaching resources that involve teenagers in the art making process. Any suggestions by anyone?
I really am looking to try and engage them on there level so any popular culture references that any art teachers have used out their to get them enthused about a project would really be appreciated.

Looking forward to any advice

keren

BongoWongo · Joined: 16 Aug 2006 Posts: 1

Good afternoon Miss Keren!
Your email is an interesting one as this has interested me immensely!
I always found popular culture an interesting reference to base student projects on. To use artists work such as Andy Warhol, Kaufman, David Hockney,Robert Rauschenberg, Peter Blake, Derek Boshier, Richard Hamilton, Sigmar Polke, Mel Ramos, Jasper Johns, Claes Oldenburg, Jeff Koons and Roy Lichtenstein, IS WOW! Students tend to relate well to these artists, as they're fun, humouristic, talented, critical, yet ironic. This art relates to everyday culture using advertising, celebs, comic strips and product packaging as subjects. Cool! Who couldn't be intrigued!
Bring in magazines, articles, newspapers, etc as extra resources or organize an excursion into the city. Inspiring our youth is so crucial! Hope I've Helped yoy! Enjoy! Creating art lessons can be challenging BUT FUN!
Cheerio!
BongoWongo!

Brad Buchel

Brad Buchel

artimouse · Joined: 23 Sep 2006 Posts: 94 Location: New South Wales

Hi Keren, Ive taught kids before, and the late primary into early highschool like anything to do with anime/manga and cartooning. Good books available from Borders.

Loosid · Joined: 06 Oct 2006 Posts: 146 Location: Sydney

I think all art schools fail in not teaching the fine art of schmoozing. Witness Van Gogh. Great artist, lousy schmoozer, hence a failure [I think most serious art students are looking for more than posthumous recognition]. Jeff Koons, questionable talent, excellent schmoozer = success.
Don't know how you could teach it, but you can't deny its importance.

leonore · Joined: 05 Mar 2006 Posts: 189 Location: Adelaide

i think this whole notion of shmoozing [god i hate that term] is ridiculous...and to say Jeff Koons is of questionable talent is absurd!...
if you mean by schmoozing, being able to speak eloquently and in telligently about your art, and others art, and the place it fills in the bigger picture..then of couse this should be taught in art schools/colleges, to have confidence in the work you produce is of the utmost importance.
to be able to hold an intelligent discouse with people ranging from wall stree brokers, heads of corporations, curators etc...to students, and the average joe on the street is vital.
art is a strange business, and i often draw the comparison with the music industry...30% of people who consider themselves musicians are crap..40% of 'musicians' are probably of sufficient talent to get a regular 'gig' and following for pub gigs etc. 20% are good enough to tour nationally, have concerts in medium sized venues and have meaningful CD sales, and loyal following, and 10% are the superbands of the world..packing out huge arenas, CD sales in the millions, and everything they touch turns to gold.
i think the same percentiles cross over to art, just the names and faces are changed!..
having met Jeff Koons on more than 1 occassion, i must tell you that his intelligence is unquestionable, and the dedication to his art is unshakeable, he is focussed and very generous.
schmoozing to me, is bullshitting...and anyone worth their salt in the business of art, can spot a schmoozer a mile off, and will avoid them like the plague..
what is needed for success is: talent/vision, unerring focus, intelligence about your own work and that of others, a sense of your 'place' in the scheme of things.
if you want to be in the 10% you have to be a very 'special person', in that the work you create must, ask questions and provide some of the answers.

KGB · Joined: 21 Jul 2006 Posts: 391 Location: Melbourne

leonore · Joined: 05 Mar 2006 Posts: 189 Location: Adelaide

KGB...sincerity and integrity are greatly appreciated by those that matter in the art world.
no-one expects an arist to write or express a scholastic dissertation about their work.
if you truly beileve in what you do..the words will come, and with any luck they will not be shrouded in post modern drivel.
talk about what inspires you...what drives you.
relax...deep breath, and remember...
those who can, do.
those that can't...teach...
or write about it!
Wink