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thecatsgrin
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 Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 8:24 am Post subject: Re: Re - Does your art reflect your gender? |
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| Daniel wrote: | | Jade wrote: | | I'm obsessed with symmetry lol. I even halve my almonds so can have an equal almond section on each side of my mouth when I chew them... |
Yes, and I like the smell of burning chocolate.  |
Really?? |
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Jade
Joined: 04 Oct 2007
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Location: Mornington Peninsula
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| Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 2:59 pm Post subject: Re - Does your art reflect your gender? |
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Yeah, its annoying when things aren't even lol.
Burning chocolate aye Daniel, that doesn't surprise me |
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The Pook
Joined: 01 Feb 2007
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Location: Tasmania
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| Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 3:31 pm Post subject: Re: Re - Does your art reflect your gender? |
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| Daniel wrote: | | Jade wrote: | | I'm obsessed with symmetry lol. I even halve my almonds so can have an equal almond section on each side of my mouth when I chew them... |
Yes, and I like the smell of burning chocolate. |
I believe the correct form of that quote should be "I love the smell of burning chocolate in the morning..." Daniel 
As for thinking about painting war zones, how do we know what most people think about? The reason most war artists are male is the same reason that most combatants are male and has nothing to do with artistic preferences I suspect. I don't know of any female war artists. There is at least one very significant female War writer though. Patsy Adam-Smith's book on Gallipoli, "The ANZACs" is one of the best on the subject.
Oh, and the Pookwife can even read a map upside down, so there. |
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sunfire
Joined: 01 Mar 2008
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Location: Toodyay
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| Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 6:35 pm Post subject: Re - Does your art reflect your gender? |
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most of my art has been done as an escape from a war zone.
& I can read maps too, I'm usually the navigater.  |
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seonau
Joined: 31 Jan 2010
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| Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 7:10 pm Post subject: Re - Does your art reflect your gender? |
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Menopause Jewelry
My husband, being unhappy with my mood swings, bought me a mood ring the other day so he would be
able to monitor my moods.
We’ve discovered that when I’m in a good mood, it turns green. When I’m in a bad mood, it leaves a
big frickin red mark on his forehead
Well its sort of gender art ! |
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Stefan Maguran
Joined: 22 Jun 2008
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Location: The Outsiders Festival State
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| Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 7:21 pm Post subject: Re - Does your art reflect your gender? |
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| Now I get it! |
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The Pook
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| Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 8:42 pm Post subject: Re: Re - Does your art reflect your gender? |
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| sunfire wrote: | | & I can read maps too, I'm usually the navigater. |
So is the Pookwife, and unlike the average husband I actually listen to her and go where she says. But in other ways I stick to the time honoured male driver code: never go back; never stop to ask directions; eventually you will find it if you drive aimlessly for long enough. |
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AvG
Joined: 17 Sep 2005
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| Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 9:51 pm Post subject: Re: Re - Does your art reflect your gender? |
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| The Pook wrote: | | I don't know of any female war artists. |
Off the top of my head, Stella Bowen. UK based painter. Official war artist for much of the second world war. Australian artist Lyndel Brown has recently returned from Afganistan, where with her collaborator artist husband Charles Green (they work on the same pieces and don't / can't identify who did what) she was an official war artist.
Am sure there are others but names not springing to mind. Nevertheless of course you are quite right Pook more male war artists than female.
As for the question. .... I notice in the work my husband used to bring home form his primary school art classes that the difference was 99% of the time when they just drew what they wanted (fairies, princesses and horses versus robots, soldiers and dinosaurs).
When they worked on set exercises that didn't involve princess, robots etc it was far less obvious.
I think that as artists become more developed and sophisticated it is much less obvious. In many cases if someone thinks a man did something I suggest it is because the figure of the artist in most people's imagination is a male one (Picasso, Van Gogh etc), irrespective of the content or style of the work. And when they think a woman did it it is usually a reflection of overtly feminine content (flowers, children portraits etc).
So...sometimes it is obvious and sometimes not.
As to the open mind. An open mind certainly is a helpful state for all creative professionals...all creative individuals for that matter.
| Quote: | | (Oh, and the Pookwife can even read a map upside down, so there. |
Me too. In our household I am the navigator. [/quote] |
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seonau
Joined: 31 Jan 2010
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| Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 10:45 pm Post subject: Re - Does your art reflect your gender? |
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Hi Amandav great reply and i am sure 100% correct.
Most artists I believe paint their art as soloists.
When I look at the collective works of many artist here or anywhere really I do notice themes that seem to be based on gender but i see often it is also coupled with restrictive ....i cant find the right wording....maybe topic (?)
When i look at your own art work, very interestingly what i am trying to say and describe does not apply to you. You are a great ambassador to support exactly what i am trying to point out !!
I am not an artist and i am on dangerous ground posting any comment here so i am trying to be humble and respectful. I just simply want to make people think about their own style and suggest ( maybe wrongly ) that if gender theme does actually exists then by being a where of it, breaking out of the normal style for a bit and widening their own experiences may well improve the overall skill. Make sense?
With that i think it may be time for me sit back and be quiet for a bit. As I am not a artist but I am a member of the forum I think I have to pay respect.
I Love this place. When I open up a profile and view a page of beautiful art work its as if an explosion goes off in my head and heart. There is some wonderful beautiful work here…thank you all. |
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thecatsgrin
Joined: 18 Apr 2009
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| Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 10:59 pm Post subject: Re - Does your art reflect your gender? |
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| Seonau, I think you appreciate art enough to become one! Or at least have fun creating if you wanted to! |
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The Pook
Joined: 01 Feb 2007
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| Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 12:12 pm Post subject: Re: Re - Does your art reflect your gender? |
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| seonau wrote: | | I am not an artist and i am on dangerous ground posting any comment here so i am trying to be humble and respectful. |
Hey no need to do that, no one else does - we're artists! We're not humble or respectful, we're a bunch of emotive, highly strung, egocentric prima donas!
Seriously though, thanks for your thoughtful thread, and your humble approach is appreciated.
| seonau wrote: | | I Love this place. When I open up a profile and view a page of beautiful art work its as if an explosion goes off in my head and heart. There is some wonderful beautiful work here…thank you all. |
You are an artist. At least with words.
Amanda - distressingly I seem to be agreeing with everything you say these days!
This discussion is a subset of that hoary old chestnut of nature vs. nurture of course, and so in the end probably insoluble, or at the best very fuzzy round the edges. But it is a fun topic to explore. |
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Stefan Maguran
Joined: 22 Jun 2008
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| Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 12:46 pm Post subject: Re - Does your art reflect your gender? |
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| Amanda was always the voice of reason - it must be your absence from the forum, Pook that's changed you (the scrabble, perhaps?) |
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The Pook
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| Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 9:29 pm Post subject: Re: Re - Does your art reflect your gender? |
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| Stefan Maguran wrote: | | Amanda was always the voice of reason - it must be your absence from the forum, Pook that's changed you (the scrabble, perhaps?) |
No no I'm sure it's SHE that must be getting more sensible |
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Stefan Maguran
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| Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 9:50 pm Post subject: Re - Does your art reflect your gender? |
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Dug
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| Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 10:10 pm Post subject: Re - Does your art reflect your gender? |
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In photography I feel it is even more difficult to differentiate between male and female vision, I can identify the works of many photographers but I think it would be difficult or impossible to pick the work of male or female photographers.
I know I far prefer photographing female models and industrial sites but I don't think my style has a definitive maleness about it.
Has anyone noticed a male or female bias in my photos ?  |
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