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vans
Joined: 16 Feb 2009
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 Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 2:58 pm Post subject: Beware of scam orders! |
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Just thought Id share . Has anyone fallen for this trick?
Thankfully I am a very suspicious person.
I have been receiving emails from a "prospective buyer'
from rainman055@gmail.com
Hello,
I am Thompson Cole, an American but I live and work here in Thailand.
I will like to place an order for some items from you, but I will like to know what you have available in stock,let me have your website address so I can view the products you have presently in stock and if there is any special pricing i need to know about.
Lastly regarding payment I will be sending you my credit card for the full payment charges for my order .
In order to avoid any form of delays can you let me know the type of credit cards you accept?
I hope to hear from you as soon as possible so we can proceed with the Order.
Regards.
Thompson Cole.
it seemed a bit suss so i checked his "details out, and played along. next email went like this
"Hello,
Below here is the list of my order:
BANDI NATURAL
Please get back to me with the total cost estimate for this order so that i can make my payment via my USA issued credit card,so DONT worry about the shipping,I will have the shipping arrangement for the pick up of these items from your place thru my shipping agent.
PLEASE LET ME KNOW THE GRAND TOTAL OF MY ORDER AND ALSO THE ESTIMATED WEIGHT OF THESE ITEMS FOR SHIPPING REASON.
T'Bell International Ltd.
38 Chetupon Road
Tambon Watket, Muang
Chiang Mai
50000, Thailand
Tel: (0053) 365-290, 356-291
Fax: (0053) 365-292
Cole.
If I had the time I would try to catch the sucker out, but I cant be bothered.
Found these known offenders on the net. Dont get fooled and check it out.
http://www.artquest.com/ArtQuest/scammer-names.htm
Will have to add RAINMAN055@GMAIL.COM to the list  |
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anissa147
Joined: 15 Sep 2009
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| Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 1:24 am Post subject: Re - Beware of scam orders! |
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| sorry... i don't get it... i've never sold anything online though... so this might sound stupid... but what made you think this is bogus |
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Steve Gray
Joined: 17 Aug 2008
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Location: Geelong
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| Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 8:02 am Post subject: Re - Beware of scam orders! |
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Yes scamy as... firstly the bad english, then the open ended order... yeah right! gimme gimme!
but yes it's doing the rounds, delete... |
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vans
Joined: 16 Feb 2009
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| Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 5:43 pm Post subject: Re - Beware of scam orders! |
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This scam has nothing to do with your art. It is all about the reimbursement!
Aparantly this form of scam has been around for a while, and there are many different names the people use. Check the list I provided.
They usually use a free email, such as gmail, yahoo, or hotmail. What they do is, they get your trust and come across like genuine people, email back and forth etc. Then, you send the art, and they "deposit" their cc payment into your account. Trouble is, the cc is usally stolen OS. They play the trick with the freight part. They usually deposit way too much into your account, and then they ask you to reimburse the difference back to the " freight company" they have enlisted to pick up the art. No hurry, they prey on you being a trust worthy person.Obviously the freight company is a bogus company name and it goes straight to the crooks.
They have about 3 weeks to finish the transaction, before it is picked up on the credit card statement of the real account holder ( the one they stole it from ) By that time, you have 'reimbursed" the difference to them, and you are screwed, because the sham transaction will not go through into your account.
Very very clever little deviates. Heaps of people get caught.
They also have other versions with money orders and cheques, but it always involves you paying them back the difference in the mistake they have made when they deposited your payment.
As soon as i see ' freight by me", and an email like the one I received, I know it is a scam. |
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Dug
Joined: 04 Jul 2005
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Location: Gippsland
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| Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 6:32 pm Post subject: Re - Beware of scam orders! |
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Instant scam education
Just send me $250 US cash and I will tell you all about a simple internet scam 
cheers doug |
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gggraph
Joined: 25 Jan 2007
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Location: In front of the Computer.
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| Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 7:03 pm Post subject: Re: Re - Beware of scam orders! |
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| Dug wrote: | | Instant scam education |
I was reading an article in a back issue of Scientific American last week (yes, I am a nerd..) in which a group of researchers attempted to find ways to help people spot internet fraud. They came up with a 'training' game that flashed a message at you when you had been conned. They idea was to train people to:
Never give their passwords to anybody, even if they say they're from your bank.
Check to see if a site is actually secure before entering details, even if it claims to be.
Look at the URL to see if the site is actually the one you think you clicked on.
The bottom line was that most people do not understand what the information in their web browser means. Strangely enough, the number of users who fell for the 'scams' was a lot higher amoung Internet Explorer users than Firefox userss...
Grant
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sunfire
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| Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 9:18 pm Post subject: Re - Beware of scam orders! |
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Thanks for the warnings.
I had something similar a couple of years ago when I first put a piece of art for sale on the internet.
I got an email, written rather funny, & saying they would buy my painting, but that a friend oversea's owed them about $10,000 & they would get them to send it to me, & I could deduct my couple a hundred & forward the rest on to them. could they trust me with their money. 
I just thought, if they think I'm that stupid they must have rocks in their head,  I mean, if someone owed me that sort of money, then I would want it payed to me. 
it's good to get some info on current scams, thanks. |
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Dug
Joined: 04 Jul 2005
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Location: Gippsland
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| Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 5:36 pm Post subject: Re: Re - Beware of scam orders! |
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| sunfire wrote: | Thanks for the warnings.
I had something similar a couple of years ago when I first put a piece of art for sale on the internet.
I got an email, written rather funny, & saying they would buy my painting, but that a friend oversea's owed them about $10,000 & they would get them to send it to me, & I could deduct my couple a hundred & forward the rest on to them. could they trust me with their money.
I just thought, if they think I'm that stupid they must have rocks in their head, I mean, if someone owed me that sort of money, then I would want it payed to me.
it's good to get some info on current scams, thanks. |
That is a good scam they have stolen credit cards and use you to launder the money they steal from them When the police find who took the payment out from the card it is your account they get the numbers for and you have a forwarding address of a PO box in Nigeria or somewhere.
I like the MAKE $100,000 FROM HOME signs you see stuck up on lamp posts they are similar scams where they use you to launder money electronically stolen from banks or credit cards and pass the money on to them.
The only way to make that work is create a false identity and not bother to send anyone anything before skipping the country  |
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nimmysnv
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| Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 4:05 pm Post subject: Re: Re - Beware of scam orders! |
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| Dug wrote: | | sunfire wrote: | Thanks for the warnings.
I had something similar a couple of years ago when I first put a piece of art for sale on the internet.
I got an email, written rather funny, & saying they would buy my painting, but that a friend oversea's owed them about $10,000 & they would get them to send it to me, & I could deduct my couple a hundred & forward the rest on to them. could they trust me with their money.
I just thought, if they think I'm that stupid they must have rocks in their head, I mean, if someone owed me that sort of money, then I would want it payed to me.
it's good to get some info on current scams, thanks. |
That is a good scam they have stolen credit cards and use you to launder the money they steal from them When the police find who took the payment out from the card it is your account they get the numbers for and you have a forwarding address of a PO box in Nigeria or somewhere.
I like the MAKE $100,000 FROM HOME signs you see stuck up on lamp posts they are similar scams where they use you to launder money electronically stolen from banks or credit cards and pass the money on to them.
The only way to make that work is create a false identity and not bother to send anyone anything before skipping the country |
Hi,
All that you provided and showed us is very helpful and somewhere is making some point to look into, as this will going to be beneficial and serves you in every case.
Thanks!!  |
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Gallery
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| Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 11:09 pm Post subject: Re - Beware of scam orders! |
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Dont even give these guys your bank details or deposit their cheques.
A company Im associated with sold some paintings to one of these guys then realised it was a scam. BUT the Aussi dollar had risen so much over about 2 weeks that they lost $3000 on conversion fees when the back reversed the deposit. Ouch.. |
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artstates
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Location: China Beijing
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| Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 5:30 pm Post subject: Re: Re - Beware of scam orders! |
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| vans wrote: | This scam has nothing to do with your art. It is all about the reimbursement!
Aparantly this form of scam has been around for a while, and there are many different names the people use. Check the list I provided.
They usually use a free email, such as gmail, yahoo, or hotmail. What they do is, they get your trust and come across like genuine people, email back and forth etc. Then, you send the art, and they "deposit" their cc payment into your account. Trouble is, the cc is usally stolen OS. They play the trick with the freight part. They usually deposit way too much into your account, and then they ask you to reimburse the difference back to the " freight company" they have enlisted to pick up the art. No hurry, they prey on you being a trust worthy person.Obviously the freight company is a bogus company name and it goes straight to the crooks.
They have about 3 weeks to finish the transaction, before it is picked up on the credit card statement of the real account holder ( the one they stole it from ) By that time, you have 'reimbursed" the difference to them, and you are screwed, because the sham transaction will not go through into your account.
Very very clever little deviates. Heaps of people get caught.
They also have other versions with money orders and cheques, but it always involves you paying them back the difference in the mistake they have made when they deposited your payment.
As soon as i see ' freight by me", and an email like the one I received, I know it is a scam. |
wow, this explanation is much clearer! Thank you for your reminding, or more of us might be cheated! |
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potteryrob
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| Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 7:39 am Post subject: Re - Beware of scam orders! |
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I got the exact same type email from the same people. Thanks for the heads up!!! My contact email order reads as follows;
Hello,
Below here is the list of my order:
1018 Raku Pottery Bedside Lamp
Wheel Thrown Raku Pottery Stoneware Lamp Robert Graydon
Qty: 10
1020 Raku Pottery Lamp
Wheel Thrown Raku Pottery Stoneware Lamp Robert Graydon
Qty: 10
Please get back to me with the total cost estimate for this order so that i can make my payment via my USA issued credit card,so DONT worry about the shipping,I will have the shipping arrangement for the pick up of these items from your place through my shipping agent.
PLEASE LET ME KNOW THE GRAND TOTAL OF MY ORDER AND ALSO THE ESTIMATED WEIGHT OF THESE ITEMS FOR SHIPPING REASON AND PICK UP ARRANGEMENTS.
T.B.D. RETAIL TRADING (THAILAND) CO.,LTD
421/7 Charoenmuang Rd
Tambon Watket, Muang
Chiang Mai
50000, Thailand
Tel: (0053) 365-290, 356-291
Fax: (0053) 365-292
Cole |
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Stephen
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| Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 12:27 pm Post subject: Re - Beware of scam orders! |
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I get these all the time.
Because i sell computers etc on auction sites i get all type of scams.
The paypal ones are the best when they send an 'email' from paypal which the email address is wrong plus the image for the paypal logo is from a different website like a high school in the US.
got to love it lol
Steve |
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vans
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| Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 9:56 pm Post subject: Re - Beware of scam orders! |
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would this qualify as a scam??
Latest email received.
Featured Artists Vol II
Annual art book
Estimated Release Date: 2010
Hardcover
Inclusions by selection only
We invite artists to submit images of their work for selection, to be published in "Featured Artists" 2nd edition, an international art book. Every nomination is based entirely on the merit of the work submitted for selection.
EDITORIAL FEE
Any artist is free to submit his/her artwork for selection. Selected artists will have to pay a participation fee. This fee covers a standard editorial cost for the creative layout, design per page and full editing, such as offset print, packing, shipping, distribution.
DISTRIBUTION
"Featured Artists" distribution is made internationally through large book wholesalers and e-shops, including Amazon, Barnes and Noble, Borders and more.The book is also distributed to over 1.200 top galleries, museums, curators, art consultants in the U.S and in Europe.
AWARDS
In the end of the editing progress, the jurors will select two of the best artworks submitted in this edition and these artworks will be used for the front and the back cover free of charge.
More info: http://www.modernartcom.com/featured_artists.html
Mediaplan publishing
US office 15 Albamont Rd. Winchester MA 01890
Europe office 16 Chr. Smirnis 185 47, N. Faliro, Athens, Greece
EDITORIAL FEE
Any artist is free to submit his/her artwork for selection. Selected artists will have to pay an editorial fee. This fee covers a standard editorial cost for the creative layout, design per page and full editing, such as offset print, packing, shipping, distribution.
The editorial fee can also be covered by corporations, galleries, museums, sponsors, etc.
Participating artists will receive a complementary copy of the book and will be able to purchase additional copies at a discount.
One Page 490 € - $605
Two Pages 890 € - $1.100
Three pages 1.240 € - $1.530
Four pages 1.590 € - $1.962
checked out AMAZON- apparently a Niki Katiki publishes these and has them for sale on Amazon for $46.95. Cant see how many they have actually sold, and it is number 1,686,009 on the sellers list-lol-not a best seller in other words. |
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vans
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| Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 10:08 pm Post subject: Re - Beware of scam orders! |
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Or this one, which I followed through by trying to contact the supposed government agency involved. It definitely was a scam.
Córdoba, Argentine.
Dear artist Pee Van Sprang
Once informed about the characteristics of your work, we will consider your possible inclusion in the book named “ La Estética y el Arte Contemporáneo II”, being the book of huge format, art-gallery quality with full colour images and texts in English and Spanish. The selection was based upon quality and origin as in previous publications: “Arte Iberoamericano Contemporáneo" (Contemporary Latin-American Art), www.atcultura.com.ar and “Arte Contemporáneo Imágen y crítica“ (Contemporary Art Image and Review).
We are sponsored by the Government formally but receives no money, that is the reason why this venture is supported through sponsors only, thus asks artists for a reasonable economic contribution.
If you are interested in being part of this book, we need an immediate response via e-mail to director@atcultura.com.ar or atcultura@argentina.com so as to include you in the listing of chosen artists. Visit www.atcultura.com.ar and
http://www.550m.com/usuarios/Ram/arte/Actividades%20culturales/arteiberoamericano.html in order to see the launch of the previous book.
Look forward to hearing from you.
Lic. María Miriam Farías Iriarte.
Secretary.
www.atcultura.com.ar |
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