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Devilbiss
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 Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 11:17 am Post subject: Portrait Commission three |
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Here's another portrait that I'm working on at the moment.
I just need to rework the background and also the jacket and paint in the gold badge and jacket embroidery.
The size of the painting is 80cm by 65cm.
Oil on linen.
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Stefan Maguran
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Location: The Outsiders Festival State
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| Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 1:19 pm Post subject: Re - Portrait Commission three |
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| That's more like it! |
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Steve Gray
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Location: Geelong
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| Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 8:52 am Post subject: Re - Portrait Commission three |
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| Great detail! you must be pleased with that! |
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Devilbiss
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| Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 9:00 am Post subject: Re: Re - Portrait Commission three |
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| Stefan Maguran wrote: | | That's more like it! |
Thanks Stefan.  |
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michael whillier
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Location: Queensland
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| Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 9:06 am Post subject: Re - Portrait Commission three |
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Daniel well done
I note that you get down to detail very early rather than starting in a very simple basic and then building the detail in piecemeal
Is this just a personal preference - it is different from how I learnt at TAFE.
Any comments from other welcome. |
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Devilbiss
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| Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 9:08 am Post subject: Re: Re - Portrait Commission three |
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| Steve Gray wrote: | | Great detail! you must be pleased with that! |
Yeah thanks Steve.
This was painted on oil primed linen which has a perfect surface for achieving fine detail.
I used soft haired brushes for this one.
And instead of mixing the colours with fast drying white I used the normal slow drying titanium white which extended the working time and allowed me to make fine adjustments and resulted in the good skin texture.
The tie was done as a grisaille with a glaze of crimson over the top and looks just like the real thing.
I am happy with it. I enjoy painting elderly people. Their skin is so interesting. |
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Devilbiss
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| Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 9:26 am Post subject: Re: Re - Portrait Commission three |
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| michael whillier wrote: | Daniel well done
I note that you get down to detail very early rather than starting in a very simple basic and then building the detail in piecemeal
Is this just a personal preference - it is different from how I learnt at TAFE.
Any comments from other welcome. |
Thanks Michael. I painted a couple of portraits at TAFE and the teachers just left me alone to do my own thing. (they probably thought that there was no hope for me)
The instructions from the client for this one were that they wanted a portrait that showed all the wrinkles and character in his face so...
After I get the drawing down on the support I segregate small areas and work on those until they are completely finished.
When I started painting I did the glasses first and then painted in the right hand eye etc inside the frame until it was done.
Then moved onto the left hand side and when that was done I painted the nose and after that the cheek etc, etc. It took 16 hours to complete the face, and then I started on the jacket and tie.
I work this way so I don’t loose any of the fine drawing work which is so important to keep if you are doing photo realistic work like this. |
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Stefan Maguran
Joined: 22 Jun 2008
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Location: The Outsiders Festival State
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| Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 9:48 am Post subject: Re - Portrait Commission three |
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| I agree. There is no hope for you in TAFE. |
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michael whillier
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| Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 10:32 am Post subject: Re - Portrait Commission three |
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thanks for that - helps me understand a lot better - I have also noticed some other people doing it on other works. I will give it a try next time
I imagine working in oils also makes it easier cos you don't get the colour changes as it dries
maybe i need to get back to more oils |
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Devilbiss
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| Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 10:46 am Post subject: Re: Re - Portrait Commission three |
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| Stefan Maguran wrote: | | I agree. There is no hope for you in TAFE. |
I actually got distinctions in all my subjects so... I don't know.... I was just having a joke at my own expense.
I enjoyed learning about art history and theory and putting it all into practise, but we all need to make money and I'm lucky to be able to paint this way, so I do.
The thing is that I can paint in almost any style I want to, I understand how different paintings are done... but why they're done is the important thing.
Most of the paintings that I post on the forum are done to bring in money.
I would love to have a go at some sort of abstact painting. Maybe I'll get a chance soon.
It will be an interesting change. |
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Stefan Maguran
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| Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 11:03 am Post subject: Re - Portrait Commission three |
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| Alright, there is some hope. |
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pugwash
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| Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 11:18 am Post subject: Re - Portrait Commission three |
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Daniel, the way you work you must have a lot of confidence that you can mix the same exact colour again. Sometimes I can't pick up the same coloured pastel twice in a row.  |
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Devilbiss
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| Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 11:47 am Post subject: Re: Re - Portrait Commission three |
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| pugwash wrote: | | Daniel, the way you work you must have a lot of confidence that you can mix the same exact colour again. Sometimes I can't pick up the same coloured pastel twice in a row. |
Yes I find it pretty easy to match the colours because I use such a limited palette.
For the skin I used Titanium white, ultramarine blue. Spectrum Red (by Art Spectrum) it's a cooler red, burnt umber and yellow ocher.
I guess all those years matching colours as a spray painter, finally paid off. |
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Devilbiss
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| Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 11:59 am Post subject: Re: Re - Portrait Commission three |
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| Stefan Maguran wrote: | | Alright, there is some hope. |
I dug around in the attic and found some old drawings from TAFE.
I sold a lot of my TAFE work and this is about all that I have left.
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michael whillier
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| Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 12:46 pm Post subject: Re - Portrait Commission three |
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| I passed the subjects that I took at TAFE, but then it was part of a mid life crisis (MLC) and I had not painted or anything before - I did a few courses, but it was not a complete certificate by a long shot. I am now just trying my had when I get time (and to escape domestic chores when my wife swallows my story). |
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