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Ki



Joined: 16 Jul 2009
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Location: Queensland

PostPosted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 2:49 pm    Post subject: Customer wants an invoice, but I'm only a hobby artist? Reply with quote

I've been commissioned to do a painting for customer and she asked for an invoice (I'm guessing so she can claim the purchase for her business) however I am only a hobby artist. and I don't have an ABN. Can I still give an invoice, or not? Any info would be appreciated, Thank you!
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Stefan Maguran



Joined: 22 Jun 2008
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Location: The Outsiders Festival State

PostPosted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 3:36 pm    Post subject: Re - Customer wants an invoice, but I'm only a hobby artist? Reply with quote

You can certainly give the customer an invoice - you may have to declare on the invoice that you are a hobby artist - you can print the invoice and receipt on your computer or even write one by hand.
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AvG



Joined: 17 Sep 2005
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 4:24 pm    Post subject: Re - Customer wants an invoice, but I'm only a hobby artist? Reply with quote

When you sell to a business you need to either provide them with a tax invoice quoting your ABN, or, if you don't have an ABN you can provide an invoice without an ABN and also provide a completed 'statement by a supplier' form. Here is the link to the form on the Tax office website http://www.ato.gov.au/content/downloads/nat3346.pdf

The statement by a supplier form is the legal way to declare that you are a hobby artist.

If you don't provide the form (or an ABN) the business is required by law to withold tax from your payment to the tune of about 48.5%
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Amanda van Gils - Artist ABOUT LISTING TYPES
lisa_m



Joined: 24 Nov 2008
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Location: Queensland

PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 4:42 pm    Post subject: Re - Customer wants an invoice, but I'm only a hobby artist? Reply with quote

Bookmarked!!!

A very handy tid-bit indeed! Thanks for that!
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Chrissy D



Joined: 12 Jan 2006
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Location: Queensland

PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 12:49 pm    Post subject: Re - Customer wants an invoice, but I'm only a hobby artist? Reply with quote

You can buy those invoice books from newsagents that have the customer copy and your copy. Or as suggested type and print it out.

Here is some info I have found to help (as I have to do one up too). There are some templates their with examples of how to fill it out.

http://www.ato.gov.au/businesses/content.asp?doc=/content/50913.htm

http://www.showmummythemoney.com.au/Small-business-start-up-information-invoice.htm

http://www.gststartup.gov.au/shoeboxCD/html/templates.html

Hope this helps.

Chrissy
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Ki



Joined: 16 Jul 2009
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Location: Queensland

PostPosted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 6:01 pm    Post subject: Re - Customer wants an invoice, but I'm only a hobby artist? Reply with quote

Great, thanks so much for your help everyone! Those links have definitely been useful.
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Chrissy D



Joined: 12 Jan 2006
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 8:55 pm    Post subject: Re - Customer wants an invoice, but I'm only a hobby artist? Reply with quote

Another thought, I have the latest version of Microsoft Office 2007 and in the Word program when you open a new document, you can choose to use a template. Here I found some Invoice templates among other things.

If you need an example, I have done mine up and can send you my template. Just PM me.
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lisa_m



Joined: 24 Nov 2008
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Location: Queensland

PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 8:54 pm    Post subject: Re - Customer wants an invoice, but I'm only a hobby artist? Reply with quote

ok possible stupid question ahead

scenario -

purchase takes place

customer is given a form declaring I have no ABN because of hobby status in place of ABN invoice.

do I not have to declare this income to the government still somehow?
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AvG



Joined: 17 Sep 2005
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 9:10 pm    Post subject: Re - Customer wants an invoice, but I'm only a hobby artist? Reply with quote

not under a certain limit lisa. I don't know the exact figure but it is a fair amount I think.
There have been other posts on this matter but the figures people gave varied a bit.... on these things I think it is always best to get advice from your accountant.
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Amanda van Gils - Artist ABOUT LISTING TYPES
lisa_m



Joined: 24 Nov 2008
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 5:05 pm    Post subject: Re - Customer wants an invoice, but I'm only a hobby artist? Reply with quote

awesome thanks amanda Smile
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