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Ravenari



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 3:26 pm    Post subject: Gretel and Dear Little Brother - and a question? Reply with quote

These are two of my most recent works;

Gretel
illustrator's board / pencil / acrylic / technical pen
38 x 51cm / 15 x 20



Dear Little Brother
illustrator's board / pencil / acrylic / technical pen
38 x 51cm / 15 x 20



I was wondering - does anyone have any idea what sort of style this would be considered? I'm having real difficulties knowing what to call my style of work. It's driving me nuts, since I'd like something simple to be able to tell other folk, i.e. 'oh it's X and X,' as opposed to 'um, well, it's kind of, I'm an outsider artist but beyond that...I have no idea.' Lol.

I hope to be good enough for group exhibitions one of these days, but if I have no idea what my style is, I think I'm going to come across as pretty daft!
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gggraph



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 3:33 pm    Post subject: Re: Gretel and Dear Little Brother - and a question? Reply with quote

Ravenari wrote:
I was wondering - does anyone have any idea what sort of style this would be considered? I'm having real difficulties knowing what to call my style of work.


It reminds me a lot of Alphonse Mucha - who was the most famous exponent of Art Deco.

I wouldn't call yours exactly art deco, but there are a lot of similar influnces there.

Cheers

Grant
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Tango



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 3:42 pm    Post subject: Re - Gretel and Dear Little Brother - and a question? Reply with quote

I wouldn't bother about labeling yourself you can leave that to others, just show them your work , if you have to you could say it's your own style or make up something like ''illustrative realist '',,,,, whatever, It's nice work..

I think Mucha style was Art Nouveau but prefered it to be called "" Le style Mucha ''
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velvet



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 7:53 pm    Post subject: Re - Gretel and Dear Little Brother - and a question? Reply with quote

Post-Mucha?

I like them very mucha.

Really, I do like them and suggest "poster-style" might go some way toward describing them.
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Ravenari



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 8:21 pm    Post subject: Re: Re - Gretel and Dear Little Brother - and a question? Reply with quote

velvet wrote:
Really, I do like them and suggest "poster-style" might go some way toward describing them.


I must say I'm getting cooler suggestions here than I did anywhere else. I like poster-style, and illustrative-realist. I like anything that isn't as generic as 'outsider art,' which - while an accurate designation - is just extremely vague.

And thanks everyone for your comments, glad you like! Smile
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Devilbiss



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 8:30 pm    Post subject: Re - Gretel and Dear Little Brother - and a question? Reply with quote

Yes they're muchaish, but if I can make one little suggestion in regards to the black outlines that you are using? Make them bold only underneath the shadows to help add weight to your drawing.
They remind me of Mucha and also of Woodroffe...I checked the other links you gave and enjoyed the photography as well.

I'd think twice about all of the spirals though. If you cant do without them then tone them down, they just seem too decorative for me.
The illustrations don't really need them.

Hey you're not an outsider...you're Ravenari
Oh and I've got a feeling that background circles are best placed (in portrait format) somewhere in the vertical center line..I hope this makes sense.
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gggraph



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 9:16 am    Post subject: Re: Re - Gretel and Dear Little Brother - and a question? Reply with quote

Tango wrote:
I think Mucha style was Art Nouveau but prefered it to be called "" Le style Mucha ''


You're right Tango - I should never type answers while drunk.

The style also has elements of 'Cloisonnism' to it - which just means that the major elements are outlined with thick keylines. Something us graphics scum do all the time.

Hey Ravenari - I'm with everybody else: don't label it anything, that just overlays other people's expectations onto it. Just call it "distinctive" or "fresh and original with a stylish use of graphic elements". That should keep eveybody guessing.
Cheeers

Grant
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Ravenari



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 9:44 am    Post subject: Re - Gretel and Dear Little Brother - and a question? Reply with quote

Devilbliss - I've been thinking about the spirals ever since you mentioned them. I'll probably keep some of the heavier ones, but I think I could definitely start experimenting with dropping the smaller decorative ones.

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I checked the other links you gave and enjoyed the photography as well.


Thank you! I've been pottering around with photography for a while and I'm thinking about putting some more of these pieces up in my DeviantArt account (which is also the 'dumping ground' for all of my artwork, lol). It feels really good to get a positive comment about those.

gggraph - I have never heard of cloisonnism, but I have always incorporated some element of graphic design into my work (oh, the irony, considering I could never do it as a career). My stepdad and one of my close friends growing up, are graphic designers, and from them I incorporated graphic elements I desired to have in my work - particularly the dark outlines.

Thanks folks. Smile
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gggraph



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 12:55 pm    Post subject: Re: Re - Gretel and Dear Little Brother - and a question? Reply with quote

Ravenari wrote:
[ I have never heard of cloisonnism, but I have always incorporated some element of graphic design into my work )


Cloissonne was a kind of French Jewelry popular around... I have no idea, as I failed history, but at a guess, France. The procedure was to solder wire shapes onto a substrate then fill it with enamel. After the piece had been fired, it was ground down and polished. The distinctive feature was that all coloured areas had a line around them. There was a fairly short-lived art movement that had lines around everything because they liked the look. It's been pretty normal in graphics since ... forever, since a lot of graphic processes involve the artist drawing a shape (the 'key' line) and indicating colours which the combiners would create in pre-press, so the art only exists in colour once it's been printed.

In fine arts, putting in keylines immediately makes the work look more 'graphic' than painterly. Nothing wrong with that - my first love has always been graphics and I'm way more familiar with commercial illustrators than I am with 'real' artists.

Cheers

Grant
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