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Coriolana
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 Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2009 9:14 pm Post subject: Painting shadows |
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Hi,
I'm a little confused over how to paint shadows (in oils) i.e. what colours do you use. I realise it's a complex question but any information would be appreciated.
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Devilbiss
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| Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2009 9:28 pm Post subject: Re - Painting shadows |
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I think this subject has been touched on previously but it helps if the shadow has some of the opposite colour to whatever it is falling on.
Purple works well over yellow green grass, Blue works well over warm grey etc. |
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Coriolana
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| Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2009 9:52 pm Post subject: Re - Painting shadows |
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Oh, if it's been covered before can you tell me where?
thanks
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Devilbiss
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Coriolana
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| Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2009 10:47 pm Post subject: Re - Painting shadows |
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Yes, thanks Daniel  |
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jeff_L
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| Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 2:05 pm Post subject: Re - Painting shadows |
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The way a shadow is painted can make or ruin a painting. Shadows shouldn't be done at the last minute as an after-thought, as something totally separate from the main subject of the painting.Pure, straight-from-the-tube black is invariably too dark in tone and too consistent or flat in color to make a satisfactory shadow. Mixing a chromatic black is already an improvement, but using a complementary color will produce a more subtle, natural effect.Crucial to painting a successful shadow is identifying what type of shadow it is, not to simply paint a generic shadow. You need to know what the differences are between a cast shadow and a form shadow, and how to approach painting them.
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Devilbiss
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| Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 2:24 pm Post subject: Re: Re - Painting shadows |
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| jeff_L wrote: | The way a shadow is painted can make or ruin a painting. Shadows shouldn't be done at the last minute as an after-thought, as something totally separate from the main subject of the painting.Pure, straight-from-the-tube black is invariably too dark in tone and too consistent or flat in color to make a satisfactory shadow. Mixing a chromatic black is already an improvement, but using a complementary color will produce a more subtle, natural effect.Crucial to painting a successful shadow is identifying what type of shadow it is, not to simply paint a generic shadow. You need to know what the differences are between a cast shadow and a form shadow, and how to approach painting them.
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Does Richard Hoedl know you are using his image?
It is also wrong to just copy and paste something from another site and try to use it as your own in an attempt to subtly plug your own website.
http://painting.about.com/od/paintingforbeginners/tp/painting-shadows.htm |
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Devilbiss
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| Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 4:40 pm Post subject: Re - Painting shadows |
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Grrrr.  |
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DavenportTegan
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| Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 9:57 pm Post subject: Re - Painting shadows |
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Hello Coriolana
Really it's a complex question but I think the mixture of black, yellow and blue make a great shadow colour. For shadow I am using these type of combination. Hope it will help you also.
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Boris01
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| Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 10:36 pm Post subject: Re - Painting shadows |
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nice one Mike !
"Shadows shouldn't be done at the last minute as an after-thought"
bullcrap, I do it all the time and get away with it cause I use the right colours and know what I'm doing. Actually , I find leaving the shadows till last extremely helpful when painting a detailed street scene or beach scene with lots of figures
black oil paint should be banned |
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Coriolana
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| Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 10:54 pm Post subject: Re - Painting shadows |
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| So Boris, what do you recommend? |
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Boris01
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| Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 1:00 am Post subject: Re - Painting shadows |
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as Mike said - darkened opposites work well
usually I use Mineral Violet in some , burnt umber mixed with ultramarine in some, on the odd occasion I'll glaze the shadows with permanent mauve then kick myself for being tempted by it and end up with overpowered shadows ( works great mixed with chromatic blacks though )
depends on the painting though - the ones I'm working on at the moment seem to work well with a really dark wierd windsor and newton brown that I found which looks to be about 40 years old, glazed with australian red gold of all things - doesnt sound like it should work but theyre turning out with this really luminous quality . night time concrete scenes lit by streetlights though, so not really typical colours in the paintings by any means |
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