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Redsy
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 Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 9:09 pm Post subject: Re: Re - Re - cheap or expensive paint |
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| darian zam wrote: | | If you cannot tell the difference or you think that lesser quality is acceptable, that says it all about your talent and practice. |
I totally disagree Darian! It doesnt say anything about talent!
I know a well known and respected artist who uses cheap paints and wont use anything else (unless he needs a few specific colors that he cannot get in the cheaper brands). He has become familiar with these paints and can use them very effectively (more so then alot of artists who are using expensive paints)! And his work is very popular and he makes quite a good living from his work.
He once told me that when you are learning you should use the cheapest stuff you can get. That way you can muck around, waste heaps, have an awesome time and not worry about the costs. I mean, you wouldnt want to learn to drive in a BMW.
Once you become familiar with pushing paint around then you can start to refine your paints and color choices.
Just a thought for beginners. After you have learnt to play then you can get into some more better quality and expensive paints. At least then you will appreciate what they can do for you.
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Stephen
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| Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 3:16 pm Post subject: Re - Re - cheap or expensive paint |
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as before depends who you talk too. For me and what i do at this point in time cheaper paints work well. I would never use a cheap white to do any line work i normally use sign writers paint as this has the best pigment.
It also depends who makes the paint, Croma student grade and Global paints are good for just about everything depending how you use them and what for i guess.
But as you move up the food chain use better paints, it comes down to what you can afford. |
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darian zam
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| Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 5:12 pm Post subject: Re - Re - cheap or expensive paint |
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| I get your point about the talent part I mentioned - perhaps the wrong term to use. It shouldn't affect your skill depending on the style and effect you are trying to achieve. However the quality of more expensive product is superior ESPECIALLY if you are intending on making archival work. For my style of work in acrylic I like solid colour with strong pigment and good consistency. The paints I have used...20 years and still going strong on colour and quality. If you are asking a good price, a client SHOULD expect quality product and archival materials that last. It's the difference between fine dining and fast food. Analog versus digital. It may sound wanky, but quality material really is a connoisseur's choice. |
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Egon
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| Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 5:44 pm Post subject: Re - Re - cheap or expensive paint |
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Hi folks - I am doing watercolour - small size 24 x 33cm -
sorry I am realist only
Thats my calculation
My Schmincke (brand) basic set 12 pans , high quality costs ~ Euro 30
Russian watercolours costs 24 pans ~ 18
I painted in about 1000 hours 500 paintings with it - and there are still most of the colours left ( I replaced only 2)
This is about 6 Cents per picture = 6 Cents for 2 hours fun
I sell about 15 - 20 pictures per year - each of them for Euro 150 minimum
I dont discuss about Cents |
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Redsy
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| Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 11:07 am Post subject: Re: Re - Re - cheap or expensive paint |
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| darian zam wrote: | | I get your point about the talent part I mentioned - perhaps the wrong term to use. It shouldn't affect your skill depending on the style and effect you are trying to achieve. However the quality of more expensive product is superior ESPECIALLY if you are intending on making archival work. For my style of work in acrylic I like solid colour with strong pigment and good consistency. The paints I have used...20 years and still going strong on colour and quality. If you are asking a good price, a client SHOULD expect quality product and archival materials that last. It's the difference between fine dining and fast food. Analog versus digital. It may sound wanky, but quality material really is a connoisseur's choice. |
Hi Darian
I totally agree with you in saying: when you are selling your work you should use the best quality products you can afford. I believe, not only becuase you want the work to be archival but also so that the client gets what they have paid for.
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darian zam
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| Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 11:46 am Post subject: Re - Re - cheap or expensive paint |
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| I have nothing to add, except, it also doesn't mean you have to buy the MOST EXPENSIVE product either. They are not necessarily better. |
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Steve Gray
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| Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 9:35 pm Post subject: Re - Re - cheap or expensive paint |
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Use cheap stuff for as long as you want to experiment and get familiar with pushing paint about etc. get the hang of it and then start to buy more expensive materials, compare the difference... it became a no brainer for me... I use golden acrylics, GREAT stuff... I can use a big chunk of medium and a few drops of pigment, and wow it goes far.
Cheaper in the long run and hey who wants to have a buyer come back and say "Oi its faded!"  |
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jenifer
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| Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 5:07 am Post subject: Re - Re - cheap or expensive paint |
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I dont think with cheap products you cant make a good painting. No doubt good paints are necessary but it also depends on the artists how well he use all the tools.
However we should use top quality products if we want to sell our products.
Thanks,
Jenifer
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gardonart
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| Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 11:14 pm Post subject: Re - Re - cheap or expensive paint |
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